Question about Althena/Lucia

phyco126 · Post by **phyco126** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:03 pm

Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:It'd be astonishing if Luna made it to the age she was in TSS without ever bleeding...ESPECIALLY considering that she had certainly started puberty.

Hehehe, lucky Alex if she didn't

Benevolent_Ghaleon · Post by **Benevolent_Ghaleon** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:31 pm

phyco126 wrote:
Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:It'd be astonishing if Luna made it to the age she was in TSS without ever bleeding...ESPECIALLY considering that she had certainly started puberty.

Hehehe, lucky Alex if she didn't

Are you suggesting that Alex has pedo tendencies?

Dragonmaster Lou · Post by **Dragonmaster Lou** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:36 pm

Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:
phyco126 wrote:
Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:It'd be astonishing if Luna made it to the age she was in TSS without ever bleeding...ESPECIALLY considering that she had certainly started puberty.

Hehehe, lucky Alex if she didn't

Are you suggesting that Alex has pedo tendencies?

I think it's more along the lines of women not always being the most pleasant to be around during that "time of month." Can't say I blame them either -- if I were bleeding from down there for 6 days straight I'd be cranky too.

Benevolent_Ghaleon · Post by **Benevolent_Ghaleon** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:38 pm

OH! Well, what he said could've been taken in more than one way.

phyco126 · Post by **phyco126** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:44 am

Dragonmaster Lou wrote:
Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:
phyco126 wrote:
Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:It'd be astonishing if Luna made it to the age she was in TSS without ever bleeding...ESPECIALLY considering that she had certainly started puberty.

Hehehe, lucky Alex if she didn't

Are you suggesting that Alex has pedo tendencies?

I think it's more along the lines of women not always being the most pleasant to be around during that "time of month." Can't say I blame them either -- if I were bleeding from down there for 6 days straight I'd be cranky too.

Exactly

Besides, not being about to have sex for 6 days, is, well, you know, for a guy it probably sucks (though Alex, well, he probably died a virgin. *snicker, takes swig if more alchohol*)

Post by **Kizyr** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:52 pm

Alunissage wrote:Sorry, I wasn't clear on that I was asking about. If I recall correctly, JWL's notes on differences between the US and Japanese EB say that as he's defeated in the US one he says that as long as there's darkness in the hearts of humans he can return, or something like that, while in the Japanese one he just yells wordlessly. So I'm wondering if there's anything in the novels where he's saying at the time of his defeat specifically that he can/will come back.

Ok, I just finished the second-to-last chapter in the EB novels. Here's the line from right after Zophar is defeated:

Zophar: "But... remember this.... Humans... revived... me... And... once again..."
Zophar's voice started to fade away.
Lucia: "Zophar. You poor god. Humans may once again falter. And you may be revived many times more. But, you will be sent back each time. That is because of humanity's true power, Althena's true power."

So yeah, it's consistent with the sort of things he says either way. KF

Angelalex242 · Post by **Angelalex242** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:53 pm

Well, Althena WAS A goddess of creation. Surely she could 'edit out' the negative effects of Creation from her human persona, no?

Anyways, I didn't ask if she bled, I asked if she had DNA. Does she have doublehelixes down there in her anatomy somewhere?

Post by **Sonic#** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:14 pm

I would think she'd have to have DNA simply in order to construct proteins and the like for her human visage.

But then, we're dealing with a magical world, so that's no guarantee.

But put another way, is the question even relevant then? Yes, I know, haploid gamete DNA means the ability to conceive children in this world. In most of our history, a knowledge of DNA was irrelevant concerning whether people had children or not. Legends don't view a lack of child as the effect of a lack of DNA, but normally as either some sort of enchantment, barrenness, or simple chance.

Althena/Luna could have simply chosen not to have children. If we want to get more concrete, it could equally well have been Alex that was sterile. Oh, wait, Dyne doesn't have any children either. Does that mean that Dragonmasters are sterile too, or don't have DNA in order to avoid people claiming they should be an heir?

There's no answer to your question, except that it's equally likely several other things could be going on.

Angelalex242 · Post by **Angelalex242** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:18 am

Bah.

I was hoping for a more concrete answer I could give admin elsewhere. If it's up to personal interpretation, my view is no better or worse then his.

But the Dragonmasters both had human parents, with human biologies. Althena incarnations do not have human parents. It's not a fair comparison. The fact they have parents means the fact they have DNA is pretty well assured.

joker_mausland · Post by **joker_mausland** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:25 pm

The first lunar game I played was Lunar 2 eternal blue. When I first played the game I thought Althena and Lucia were sisters later on I thought Lucia was Althena's daughter but now I really don't know.

Angelalex242 · Post by **Angelalex242** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:17 am

They are most definitely NOT related. Even a little.

The novels confirm this.

phyco126 · Post by **phyco126** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:26 am

Angelalex242 wrote:They are most definitely NOT related. Even a little.

The novels confirm this.

Wait, I thought they where sister like? I guess I really should read the novels that Kiz translated sometime.

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