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Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:05 pm
by Uncle Ramus
Unfortunately this time it's on the Franchise Killers episode. It's the first franchise they talk about in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3v293Cr8Q

EDIT: Previous mentions, for the sake of completeness

RPGs (2013) https://youtu.be/3WfPzI9iY0o?t=4m48s
Sega CD Review (2014) https://youtu.be/TcKrOKjhVPY?t=18m2s
Demo Discs (2015) https://youtu.be/PASL8ScUsUE?t=8m42s

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:51 pm
by jay_are
Lunar Dragon Song still had better music than Breath of the Wild :mrgreen:
Ok. That's probably its only obvious strength.

Lunar Dragon Song still had better characters, NPCs and a more creative / interesting villains and ending!

"A lot of it feels like an afterthought", this is true :( :( :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry:

Oh and before I forget, AT LEAST Lunar Dragon Song is a JRPG, not trying to be a western thing popular in the west 2005.
Look at that Final Fight disaster on PS2.
I'd rather have a JRPG badly done than a GTA or Skyrim wannabe.
Dragon Quest remains the ONLY game franchise that can blend itself into other genres and still be a win!
(DQ Heroes 1 and 2, DQ Builders)

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:55 am
by GhaleonOne
jay_are wrote:Lunar Dragon Song still had better music than Breath of the Wild :mrgreen:


I don't remember Dragon Song's music much, but the music in the final area of Breath of the Wild is REALLY good, in my opinion.

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:54 pm
by Maus
It was a really fair review, but I''m quite worried about just how much material he had to work with... the video could have been entirely about DS and it would have worked.

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 pm
by jay_are
GhaleonOne wrote:
jay_are wrote:Lunar Dragon Song still had better music than Breath of the Wild :mrgreen:


I don't remember Dragon Song's music much, but the music in the final area of Breath of the Wild is REALLY good, in my opinion.


Lunar Dragon Song's battle theme is so good, I could hear it throughout the entire game and still wanted to hear it more after I was done.
It had several boss themes too, and I think I liked all of them too.
When I hear BotW battle music, I just want to pull my hair off at how bafflingly dumb it is. (Those nonsensical piano notes and other weird things)
The town themes from Lunar DS were nice and heartwarming, as was the titlescreen music, and even some dungeons too even though most of them had lame music. (I liked the rain forest theme very much).
Actually, when I listen to BotW's title music, I get bored thinking I'm gonna watch a sad movie or something, totally out of what Zelda is supposed to make me feel. (Zelda 1, 2, AlttP and LA all had excellent exciting intros full of the magic that only a videogame could deliver)

That's about all I can compare though, I didn't play BotW, but I did see it being played / listened to some of its OST.
Can you show me a sad theme from BotW?

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:15 am
by Alunissage
Zelda BotW music posts split into their own topic (on the General Gaming board) here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5893

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:33 pm
by Uncle Ramus
Hey jay_are, if you want to defend Althena's honor then maybe you should do battle with the guy who said this in the comments haha:

some dude on YouTube wrote:The Lunar games are't very good RPGs. If you break them down, its just a grind. And you do the same -Dragon Diamond- over and over again.
Repetitive as -Fatal Hopper-. Secret of Mana or even Chrono Trigger do not suffer from this monotones crap. Simply because the world and the game mechanics are much better. Even FF surprises you with more variety. And FF is just standing there and wait.

Re: Lunar featured once again on Game Sack

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:18 pm
by jay_are
Uncle Ramus wrote:Hey jay_are, if you want to defend Althena's honor then maybe you should do battle with the guy who said this in the comments haha:

some dude on YouTube wrote:The Lunar games are't very good RPGs. If you break them down, its just a grind. And you do the same -Dragon Diamond- over and over again.
Repetitive as -Fatal Hopper-. Secret of Mana or even Chrono Trigger do not suffer from this monotones crap. Simply because the world and the game mechanics are much better. Even FF surprises you with more variety. And FF is just standing there and wait.

:lol: To each their own, dude. Lunar is not about the grind, it's about what is rewarded to you after the grind.
That's how the series captured its fans hearts when there was barely FF4 to play back in the day: The dialogue, the way the characters interact with each other and the things the NPCs have to say.
I dont care about almost any of the NPCs in Chrono Trigger for example, and I loved that game to death. But in Lunar, I WANT to talk to everyone in town, several times! And you do so while the game has you listen to some of the sweetest music. How's that for a grind game? This is kinda what an RPG is supposed to be about by its definition.
Lunar also has a very unique characteristic: It can remain interesting in a lighthearted mood. Other games such as Chrono Trigger and FF rely on world destruction or corrupt leaders and things like that too much to keep the player awake. Not many games can keep your interest in a world that is overall peaceful.

Lunar IS a very simplistic RPG, mechanically, and as a fan of Dragon Quest and early FF games, this is just my cup of tea!