About the "Dragons and Dragonmasters" section

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:01 am

Check their contact page. I'm sure they have a general customer service email address. In fact, you could even call them up and ask.

Jian · Post by **Jian** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:22 am

Working Designs' phone number is (530) 243-3417.

If you give them a call Greensky let me know what they said because I was wondering the same thing. I also have the SSSC guide with the poster offer.

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:33 am

BTW, SP, I'd still try and contact them. In the past when I've had problems like that, I was helped out. It's worth a call if you just explain the situation to them and tell them you mailed it in a few years ago, never heard back and were told they might still be willing to help you on it.

Greensky · Post by **Greensky** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:17 pm

I contacted Working Designs, and they said that they still have posters left over, so if I sent a money order, they would send the poster. The only problem is... I live in Canada. I have to read the poster offer again, I think it may be a United States only thing... :oops:

EDIT: Ooh, it says the offer is available to Canada too, horray.

Silver Phoenix · Post by **Silver Phoenix** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:05 am

I tried calling WD, but their offices were already closed. I just know when I call they're going to say they have no proof that I paid, and they're going to piss me off by asking me to send the money again. I also looked at my strategy guides, and I mailed out money to receive both posters, not the one. I sent both offer cards at the same time, and the posters were supposed to be free but the Lunar:SSS poster was $3 shipping and handling, and Eternal Blue Complete was $6. I sent out $9 total. I hate having to pay for things twice, because something is messed up on their end. I'll call again tomorrow, but I'm sure they're going to charge me again.

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:26 am

ilovemyguitar wrote:They could even do a Final Fantasy VI sort of thing.

Oh please god no...

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:26 pm

Hey, FFVI was good! Though I don't want to see a destructed world like that in Lunar. Just wouldn't fit IMO, even with a flooded world.

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:08 am

Unless you're a real ass like me and think that's a crock of poo.

Personally I believe that Alex, after saving Luna, hid the peices of Dragon Equipment all over the world so that it would never fall into the wrong hands, but allowed Nall to keep the Sword and Wings.

Although, Nall mentioned that the Wings had lost power over time, perhaps the powers in the Dragon Items were lost over time too.

The items you find in the random caves ARE the dragon items.
Black Dragon Armor, Blue Dragon Helm, Red Dragon Shield.

It doesn't make Hiro a Dragonmaster because he wasn't acknowledged as one. However that doesn't mean he can't wear the equipment.

Just like I could raid the Vatican, beat up the Pope, and put on his clothes (<3 that hat) it doesn't make me the Pope; but I can still wear the clothes.

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:14 am

The items you find in the random caves ARE the dragon items.
Black Dragon Armor, Blue Dragon Helm, Red Dragon Shield.

In which game? Not EB. There are items titled Dragon Armor, Dragon Helm and Dragon Shield, but the colors aren't there.

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:27 am

GhaleonOne wrote:
The items you find in the random caves ARE the dragon items.
Black Dragon Armor, Blue Dragon Helm, Red Dragon Shield.

In which game? Not EB. There are items titled Dragon Armor, Dragon Helm and Dragon Shield, but the colors aren't there.

They're still the same thing

The shield looked the same, so did the armor and the helm!

*mutter, looks for screenshots*

They were the same item!

They wouldn't name something else Dragon-Something unless it was THE Dragon-Something.

Lunar Eclipse · Post by **Lunar Eclipse** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:37 pm

Actually, the Dragon Armors in Eternal Blue look nothing like the Dragonmaster Armors in Silver Star Story. There are screens of the equips on Wolgang's site.

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:53 pm

Lunar Eclipse wrote:Actually, the Dragon Armors in Eternal Blue look nothing like the Dragonmaster Armors in Silver Star Story. There are screens of the equips on Wolgang's site.

Hrmph, why would it be named Dragon God anything if it wasn't THE dragon God something?

Liars and blasphemers.

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:29 pm

In EB/EBC they were merely called "dragon armor, dragon shield, etc" and I believe it was a Dragonmasters armor at ONE point. I mean...so what the little screen icons don't look the same...there's a lot about Lunar that doesn't look similar, but is. VANE for example. Such a piece of poop in EB/EBC

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:08 pm

Oh, I personally think the "Dragon armor" was the real deal that Alex and previous Dragonmaster's wore, but it's not really a proven fact just based on the names alone.

Post by **Alunissage** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:23 pm

I think it's just armor that someone incised a dragon on or similar, since dragons are sort of the mascots of Lunar. The item descriptions didn't mention dragonmasters. Everyone knows that there are no more dragonmasters, and in SSSC at least it was clear that Alex's armor ceased to exist, so I think it was just some craftsman who decided to call it dragon armor. Of course, there's no explanation for how all this stuff ends up in caves to begin with.

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:35 am

Alunissage wrote:I think it's just armor that someone incised a dragon on or similar, since dragons are sort of the mascots of Lunar. The item descriptions didn't mention dragonmasters. Everyone knows that there are no more dragonmasters, and in SSSC at least it was clear that Alex's armor ceased to exist, so I think it was just some craftsman who decided to call it dragon armor. Of course, there's no explanation for how all this stuff ends up in caves to begin with.

Oh it could be armor made up from like Dragon scales...I mean the little icons looked greenish to me...kind of scaly like.

I really liked the fact that Hiro didn't become dragonmaster...TSS/SSSC and EB/EBC had a different story because of it and it definitely made me feel like I was playing a whole new game, with the same feel.

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:30 pm

That's why I liked EB so much. It drew on SS, but it was it's own game, and added more to the Lunar universe without just rehashing SS elements. Whereas SS was extremely cliche, in fact, probably the best cliche "save the girl and princess" story out there, EB was the perfect epic. They're two different kinds of stories, but the best of their kind, and where they are similiar is that both plots are driven by well done character development.

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:13 pm

GhaleonOne wrote:That's why I liked EB so much. It drew on SS, but it was it's own game, and added more to the Lunar universe without just rehashing SS elements. Whereas SS was extremely cliche, in fact, probably the best cliche "save the girl and princess" story out there, EB was the perfect epic. They're two different kinds of stories, but the best of their kind, and where they are similiar is that both plots are driven by well done character development.

IT WAS THE BEST "save the princcess" story though! THE BEST!

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:59 pm

I know. That's what I mean. It was the best of it's kind. It took the cliched plot of so many other stories, and did it perfectly. Then again, EB in a way is the same. Rather than the "save the princess" plot, it was the "kill the dark god" plot. However, it was so epic, and the characters made it feel totally original. The whole Zophar/Althena/Lucia arc gave it a good twist, and then throwing in Ghaleon's plans, Nall's presense, and the various little things like the Cult of Althena, an anti-Vane in Neo-Vane, the Dragons getting more background, etc. and it made for a good epic. SS was the same. It had so much originality wrapped around the simple story that that's what makes the series good.

NallOne · Post by **NallOne** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:56 pm

If you are going to say that the Dragonmaster Equipment and the 'Dragon God' Equipment are one in the same, then you can not base it on the name. There is a weapon for Ronfar called the Dragon God's Flail, and last I checked Alex didn't use a flail.

...then again, maybe one of the previous Dragonmasters did. :twisted:

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